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An unlikely Story > MI6 spy Gareth Williams death ‘probably an accident’, say the UK police

A Likely Story > MI6 spy Gareth Williams death ‘probably an accident’, say the UK police

By Dark Politricks

Do you remember the strange case of the MI6 spy, Gareth Williams, who was found dead, naked and locked inside a sports bag at his home the other year?

This was a man who worked as a code breaker for the British Intelligence Services. A man who had signed the official secrets act and who would have been a target for any other intelligence agency if they knew what he was working on.

An inquest into his death had concluded that his death was a case of unlawful killing (or in other words a murder where the suspect isn’t known or being tried at the time of the inquest). A 3rd parties DNA was found at the scene, and the body was locked naked inside a sports bag in which the padlock locking it didn’t have any of the victims fingerprints on it. A strange case indeed.

However now the police has conducted another inquiry into the death and concluded that it was a case of an “accident“.

Nothing to see here, just move along sheeple.

Nothing suspicious about a dead MI6 spy, found dead, locked inside a bag he didn’t lock.

Yes it was just a case of him slipping, falling into the bag, it being zipped up and locked by itself. All totally logical and reasonable conclusions to find with this weird case of death by misadventure.

Lets just re-cap from the BBC’s own website last year after the body of MI6 code breaker, Gareth Williams, was found locked, naked in a locked sports bag at his home.

Specks of unexplained DNA were found on the holdall containing the curled-up body of MI6 spy Gareth Williams, his inquest has heard.

Det Ch Insp Jackie Sebire said “two minor components of another contributor’s DNA” were found on the zip toggle and padlock.

She said it was her opinion “that a third-party had been involved”.

Questions asked in the earlier article, and some of my own, about the death and the inquiry which concluded that Gareth Williams death was an unlawfull killing include:

-Why did Gareth Williams have a newspaper cutting about people’s regrets when they were dying?

-Were the £20,000 of women’s clothing and shoes for his own use, part of a fashion collection or gifts for friends? And how significant are the DNA traces found on the padlock and zip of the holdall his body was found in?

-Why it took until 23 August for police to be informed that he might be missing?

-Gareth was also due to attend a work meeting and meet someone at his flat seven days earlier but the man who was likened to a “Swiss watch” never showed up. Why did no-one contact the police then? Was this not suspicious in itself?

-Whose DNA was it that was found on the bag?

-Was he working on top secret codes at MI6, codes which might have been a target for a foreign nation or spy agency?

Was he being blackmailed by someone or involved in handing over top secret information in return for “secrets” not being revealed?

-How easy is it to lock yourself into a sports bag and then lock it from the outside?

-If you did die from lack of oxygen from locking yourself in a bag would your face be happy and calm as it is claimed he looked? Or would it look as if you had been struggling for air, gasping for a last breath, fingerprints all over the inside of the bag as he realised what he had done and desperately tried to get out?

Det Ch Insp Sebire, who had been leading the investigation gave the opinion that: “My thought or my opinion since I went into the scene is that a third-party had been involved in the death or by putting the body in the bag.”

The fact the DNA had been found meant there remained “future work that needs to be done,” she said.

The inquiry that found the death unlawful also considered whether it was possible to lock yourself into a bag and die calmly as it’s now claimed. At the time the findings were:

Pathologists said he would have suffocated within three minutes if he had been alive when he got inside it.

None of his DNA was found on the lock attached to the bag and his palm prints were not found on the rim of the bath.

Coroner Fiona Wilcox concluded that “most of the fundamental questions in relation to how Gareth died remain unanswered”.

But she said he was, “on the balance of probabilities”, unlawfully killed.

Therefore probability states that his death was the cause of something else.

Maybe a poison that disappears from the blood or is not identifiable in the body? It would certainly not surprise me if another spy agency like the FSB or Mossad had used such an agent. They are always coming up with new and exciting ways to kill their enemies such as polonium-210.

However after this new inquiry we are still left with no answers and the police seem to have forgotten about all these intriguing questions.

It seems they have tied the suspicious death up into a nice little neat bow so that it can be tucked away and ignored by anyone who might think a dead man locked, bulging outwards, in a bag locked from the outside might find it odd or suspicious.

The family are certainly not content with the findings of the new inquiry.

In a statement, they said: “We are naturally disappointed that it is still not possible to state with certainty how Gareth died and the fact that the circumstances of his death are still unknown adds to our grief.

“We consider that on the basis of the facts at present known, the coroner’s verdict accurately reflects the circumstances of Gareth’s death.”

This new investigation by the police has claimed that the death of MI6 spy Gareth Williams death was probably an accident.

From the same BBC news website that reported that the death of the spy likely involved other people.

Last year, a coroner said it was likely Mr Williams, 31, from Anglesey, had been unlawfully killed in August 2010.

But the Metropolitan Police said an evidence review had found “it was more probable” no other person was present when he died in his London flat.

Mr Williams’s family said they stood by the coroner’s findings.

In a statement, they said: “We are naturally disappointed that it is still not possible to state with certainty how Gareth died and the fact that the circumstances of his death are still unknown adds to our grief.

“We consider that on the basis of the facts at present known, the coroner’s verdict accurately reflects the circumstances of Gareth’s death.”

It seems that even the police themselves aren’t happy with the conclusions they have now drawn on the death. Yet they are still standing by them.

Has the UK Government or MI6 pressured them to come to this conclusion?

It wouldn’t be out of the realms of possibility at least not if we are using the benchmark of this case to compare it with!

From the outcome today. Deputy Assistant Commissioner Martin Hewitt has said:

He was satisfied it was “theoretically possible” Mr Williams could have padlocked the bag from the inside, although “many questions remain unanswered” as to the circumstances of his death.

yet, there was no evidence that the MI6 officer had intended to take his own life or that his death was connected to his work.

And he insisted it was “beyond credibility” that he had been misled.

“I do not believe that I have had the wool pulled over my eyes. I believe that what we are dealing with is a tragic unexplained death,” he said.

There were about 10 to 15 traces of DNA in the flat from which it had not been possible to gain full DNA profiles, but all other DNA profiles and fingerprints had been eliminated, said DAC Hewitt.

So even though the policeman leading the investigation doesn’t believe Gareth Williams meant to take his own life and that there were 10 to 15 traces of other people’s DNA in the flat that could not be matched, he still believes the spy just calmly locked himself in a bag, locked it without touching the lock, and just died peacefully without struggling as the last molecules of air were sucked into his lungs.

Yes, a very believable story.

One the parents of the victim don’t agree with and one I find hard to comprehend without knowing that the police are just tools of the state and would lie to the end of the world if told to. They certainly have tried that method with their pathetic stitch up attempt on former Government Minister Andrew Mitchell.

The police have now closed their investigation into this spy’s death – probably on the orders of higher-ups. Yet they gave this intriguing statement which suggest that even they are not satisfied with their own findings.

DAC Hewitt, acknowledged that the coroner, having studied “all the evidence available at that stage” had made “the logical inference that it was more likely someone else was involved in Gareth’s death”.

“However, she also recognised that there has been endless speculation but little real evidence and it was her view [that] ‘it is unlikely that his death will ever be satisfactorily explained’,” he said.

“Now at the end of our investigation, based on the evidence, or where we have been unable to find positive evidence, we believe that it is a more probable conclusion that there was no other person present when Gareth died.

“But the reality is that for both hypotheses, there exist evidential contradictions and gaps in our understanding.”

Yes very convincing.

I only hope that the parents of this dead spy get some proper answers from a real police force sometime soon because we are sure being fed bullshit by the truck load at the moment!

You can read the new take on the death of MI6 spy Gareth Williams at the same BBC site who claimed a third-party was involved here: MI6 spy Gareth Williams death ‘probably an accident’, police say.

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  1. Cantab says

    I think the most likely option is that he locked himself in there to test himself…just like he did previously when he tied himself to the bed and as his googled history showed he was interested in ‘escapeology’ It has since been proven that it can be done (several videos on YouTube showing it)

    He then suffocated, perhaps he tried to kick his was out but wasn’t able too or perhaps he kept with his planned technique which didn’t work.

    • darkpolitics says

      That is a possibility. The fact that the police man said his face was “calm” looking, with his arms folded on his chest though seems to suggest that he didn’t struggle at all. I know if I was in a bag suffocating I would be panicking and struggling and at least trying to rip, kick and bite my way out of the bag. The way the cops say his body was found seems to go against that theory.

      Escapology could be a theory but I think the fact the Police didn’t find out the origin of the other DNA on the bag and there were no finger prints from the victim on the bag plus the fact that even the police still have questions (and didn’t mention escapology as a possibility either) might go against that argument. If they knew he was into that kind of “hobby” surely they would have said it was a possibility?

  2. Barrie Singleton says

    I have noticed a recurrent factor – ‘overt/covert’ – seems to apply to these ‘fringe events’ (9/11 etc). Eg 9/11 was nominally a covert operation but sprinkled with overt proofs it was not as presented. All the bombings fit the overt/covert pattern. This bag-death is exemplary. The bag is in the bath – yet bath sides are PERFECT for prints and there are none. Every time my mind runs to: “Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad.” It is as if there is the acro event for the simple folk to swallow, and the obvious negation pointers for the cognocenti (conspiracy theorists). Divide and rule?

  3. Becky says

    With regard to the large amount of women’s clothing found at Gareth Williams’ flat. If Gareth Williams was part of the transgendered community – which has become closer now via the Internet – then did Gareth ever correspond with Chelsea Manning? Then we have David Shayler who also turns out to be transgendered? Did information that the government/establishment don’t want anyone else to know get exchanged at some stage through the grapevine – whether with deliberate intent or even not? It’s a long shot, but we all now also know that the NSA has been monitoring everyone’s internet use, emails and phone-calls…I guess nothing can be ruled out at this stage. Possibly, outing Gareth Williams as possibly transgendered into a virulently transphobic press might have been one way that the powers-that-be hoped to mask questions about their actions through shock and awe transphobic headlines that concentrated on the victim’s gender identity. Just a thought…?

    • Barrie Singleton says

      “Just a thought.” and a good one Becky. Are we dumb kittens playing with the waggled string, unaware we are about to go in the sack for a river experience?

  4. Alexa says

    Something that I’ve found that I thought was incredibly suspicious was the fact that he was leaving his department of mi6 I think it had something to do with it giving him lots of stress. I just feel like mi6 had something to do with it since they weren’t overly pleased with the fact he was leaving as he probably knew too much. I know this is an old thread but I just had to comment on it. Another thing he very rarely, if ever, missed a day of work, so mi6 should have contacted authorities right away or at least made a house call to make sure he was okay, unless they were giving the poison time to leave his body and for the body to decompose enough that a real cause of death outside of “not being able to breath” to be found. The temperature was turned up high in his home as too try to speed up the decomposition of his body and plus his house and been cleaned EVERYWHERE, they are diffidently suspicious and the mi6 diffidently know more than they are letting on. There is a guy on YouTube, Rob Dyke, he has a series called seriously strange, he has a few episodes on it to do with disappearances and Gareth Williams is in one of them. He goes a bit more in depth about the case you should check it out.

    • darkpolitics says

      I totally agree with you.

      Do you have any links?

      • Alexa says

        Yes, it is the first story of the video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0AiqmN21Mg&index=14&list=PLQKlHp9A8xVTGoLtJePs8WnZpJs6xkB2o

      • Alexa says

        • Dark Politricks says

          Thanks, good video!

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