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Jeremy Corbyn’s Full Speech at The 2015 Labour Party Conference

Jeremy Corbyn’s Full Speech at The 2015 Labour Party Conference

By Dark Politricks

As the Tory right-wing papers have got bored with #piggate they are back to slagging off the new Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn.

They see any disagreement in the party as a major split, every discussion as a failed policy, and attack Corbyn at every turn.

Maybe it’s because he has increased the Labour party membership more than in recent years, excited young people by honest talking, and isn’t part of the neo-con axis of war establishment that they are angry.

He can see that it has been the recent pointless wars in Libya, Iraq and Syria that have directly caused the mass influx of refugees into Europe whilst the Tories deny any culpability for the mess Libya is now in.

He should take it as a compliment.

If they didn’t think he was popular and a danger to their elite then he would just be ignored, or made fun of like Ed Miliband was.

Instead he is the “most dangerous man in Britain”, someone who will put our nations security at risk by not following the US into every war they want to start.

Someone who is not scared to admit that our nuclear deterrent is a waste of money. It isn’t independent as it relies on US GPS satellites, so we would have to get US permission to fire anyway, so what is the point of it?

Watch his recent Labour conference speech and get a flavour of what he is all about.

Just remember, if we can print money at 0% interest rates to keep the banks afloat by lending it to them so they can then whack up the interest before lending it to us and make free money we can print money for investment, house building and job creation.

This is what he wants to do, socialism NOT for the rich as we currently have but an equal society for all of us.

By Dark Politricks


© Copyright – 2015 Dark Politricks

Who owns the Bank of England?

Who owns the Bank of England?

By Dark Politricks

I have updated some quotes seeing that people were disputing them and although many original ones were pretty similar to the source the wording was slightly incorrect – Sep 2015

First a few historical comments by people who helped create two of the worlds most famous central banks, the Bank of England and the Federal Reserve.

I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men. – Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence

The Bank of England was created in 1694 by a Scotsman William Paterson, a quote by one of the governors of the central bank famously said:

The modern banking system manufactures money out of nothing - Josiah Stamp – Governor of The Bank of England

The history of the Bank of England and how it was taken over by one powerful family hundreds of years ago.

Up until 1946 when it was nationalised the Bank of England was a private run bank that lent money it created out of nothing to the English government and was paid back with interest.

A very famous story relates to the Bank of England and the infamous Rothschilds, that all powerful banking family. This story was re-told recently in a BBC documentary about the creation of money and the Bank of England by none other than the BBC’s economics and business editior Robert Peston.

It revolves around the Battle of Waterloo in which Nathan Rothschild used his inside knowledge of the outcome and his faster horses and couriers to play the market by getting the result of the battle before anyone else knew the outcome.

He quickly sold his English bonds and gave all the traders who looked to him for guidance the impression that the French had won at Waterloo.

The other traders all rushed to sell their bonds before the market crashed thinking that they were now worthless and a massive fire-sale occurred as brokers clamered to get rid of their stock. This massive sell off quickly drove the price of the bonds down to 5% of their original worth.

Once the bottom had dropped out the market Nathan Rothschild then re-bought as many bonds back as he could at hugely discounted prices and in doing so he multiplied his wealth twenty times in 3 days of trading.

At the same time as becoming immensely wealthy he also became the single largest debtor to the English government which ultimately gave him control over the bank of England.

English bonds were a debt guaranteed by future tax revenue of the English government, therefore the taxes the citizens paid were going to pay the 8% interest that the English government had to pay to borrow the money.

As Nathan Rothschild now controlled the majority of the English bonds he could determine the price and therefore the supply of the English currency which gave him great power over the countries finances. As he famously said afterwards.

Who controls the issuance of money controls the government! - Nathan Rothschild

Privatisation of the bank continued for years until the bank of England was nationalised after the war in 1946.

However because the government was broke after the second world war they didn’t have enough money to buy out all the shareholders so instead they were issued with government stocks.

Although the government now earned money from any bank profits they also had to pay interest on any new stock they issued to pay for the shares they couldn’t buy back in the first place.

In 1977, the Bank set up a wholly owned subsidiary called BANK OF ENGLAND NOMINEES LIMITED, a private limited company with 2 of its 100 £1 shares issued. The objectives of the company are:

“To act as Nominee or agent or attorney either solely or jointly with others, for any person or persons, partnership, company, corporation, government, state, organisation, sovereign, province, authority, or public body, or any group or association of them….”

The two shares belong to the bank itself and John Footman who only holds it on behalf of the bank. The directors of this private limited company which is a subsidiary of the bank are John Footman and Andrew Bailey who are both employees of the bank itself.

This company is very special as its protected by the official secrets act, its Royal Charter status and is exempt from the normal disclosure requirements that other companies have to comply with to meet section 27 of the Companies Act 1976.

The reason being is that the major players in the world of finance including the Queen of England and other Royal families use this company to purchase shares and remain anonymous.

However the Bank of England Nominees company accounts are not exempt from any laws regarding companies and they must print their accounts as every company must do which can then be accessed through the Company House website. It is interesting to note however that the latest Bank of England Nominees LTD accounts say that:

“There has been no income or expenditure on the part of the Company since its incorporation and accordingly no profit and loss account is submitted.”

It still also has total net assets of £2 (the £2 shares).

However even though the Bank of England is now state owned its important to note that up to 97% of the UK’s money supply is privately controlled being in the form of interest bearing loans created by the big commercial banks.

The bank holds very little government stock and the Bank’s profits primarily come from the issuing of coins and notes for use by high street banks. Therefore it seems the Bank of England has reduced in size and importance over the years and is now mainly a regulatory body that oversees the existing banking system and since the 1997 Labour government it’s main role is to control inflation and the base interest rate used by the country.

Referred to as “the lender of last resort” one of it’s other main functions as “the bankers bank” is to support banks that get into difficulty such as during the financial melt down of 2008.

On the surface at least it seems that the Bank of England has returned to state control however in America the Federal Reserve is still a privately controlled bank. This comes as a surprise to many people who don’t know the history of the preceding US central banks that went before it but were closed down due to worries that the bankers had too much power.

The history of the US banking system has been one in which control of the money supply has alternated between Congress and privately owned banks.

The founding fathers and early presidents of the USA were very much aware of the dangers concerning central banks and they realised that whoever controlled the nations money supply wielded enormous amounts of power.

The founding fathers of the USA wrote about the dangers of central banking extensively.

[The] Bank of the United States… is one of the most deadly hostility existing, against the principles and form of our Constitution… An institution like this, penetrating by its branches every part of the Union, acting by command and in phalanx, may, in a critical moment, upset the government. I deem no government safe which is under the vassalage of any self-constituted authorities, or any other authority than that of the nation, or its regular functionaries. What an obstruction could not this bank of the United States, with all its branch banks, be in time of war! It might dictate to us the peace we should accept, or withdraw its aids. Ought we then to give further growth to an institution so powerful, so hostile? -Thomas Jefferson

We began planning the Revolutionary War in order to issue our own money again - Benjamin Franklin

I sincerely believe… that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies, and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity under the name of funding is but swindling futurity on a large scale. – Thomas Jefferson

The money powers prey upon the nation in times of peace and conspire against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than a monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, and more selfish than bureaucracy. It denounces as public enemies all who question its methods or throw light upon its crimes. I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe. Abraham Lincoln

Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate. - James Garfield

The following video takes a look at how after a contrived banking crisis the Federal Reserve came to being during the dead of night in 1913.

Hopefully this short history of two of the worlds most famous central banks shows you that Nathan Rothschild was true when he said that whoever controlled a nations money supplied controlled the nation.

Why I am glad Jeremy Corbyn was elected

Why I am glad Jeremy Corbyn was elected

By Dark Politricks

As you should know from previous articles I paid my £3 and voted for Jeremy Corbyn to become the newly elected Labour leader.

With nearly 60% of the vote in the first round, he won a massive mandate across all sections of voters to become the new leader of the previously tory lite Labour party.

He won the majority of Labour members votes, the majority of trade union votes (who if anyone forgets – did create the party they still bankroll), and the majority of the almost quarter of a million of people like me who signed up as an affiliate to vote for the leader and deputy leader.

So as the right-wing papers attack him today, with Tories calling him the most dangerous man in Britain and with the Tory Defence minister saying he will put our national defence at risk, I want to remind you why I voted for him.

I want a real choice in British Elections.

With the Liberal Democrats being wiped out at the last election and the Blairite years bringing Labour so far to the centre that they became more right-wing than the Tories at some stages, this is the only way to give the electorate a real choice at the next election.

A real choice between the politics of inclusion, peace and help for all to get on in life and those that mean socialism for the rich, austerity for the poor along with constant war and attacks on civil liberties.

Please remember the Tories have NOT resolved our massive national debt problems through their punishment to the poorest and neediest in society. Instead they have grown our debt more than Labour ever did, always remember this when George Osborne carps on about reducing the deficit. The deficit can reduce at the same time as the national debt growing – read up on the difference if you don’t know it.

I also don’t want our money wasted on unnecessary wars that have caused this mass influx of immigrants, refugees and ISIS sleeper cells into the EU. There have already been reports of thousands of Syrian passports for sale in Turkey so that terrorists can get straight into the EU and arrests have already been made of ISIS suspects. This is harming the chances of real refugees fleeing from the crisis we helped create from gaining safety in the EU.

Remember we caused this mess by going to war in Libya, Iraq, and Syria when we didn’t need to. It cost this country billions if not trillions, and firing £400k Tomahawk missiles at Afghan mud huts just causes more people to hate us and creates terrorists for the future. Even our own top Army brass believe this to be true. It’s the Chicken Hawks in Washington and Westminster, who love sending other peoples kids into war, that think wasting tax payers money on creating new bogeymen to threaten our civil liberties with is a good idea.

All these wars have made us less safe at home and Jeremy understands this despite establishment opinions.

Whether the US, NATO, MI6, the CIA and the UK establishment will allow a Labour leader to become Prime Minister is another matter.

If I was Jeremy I would be seriously considering employing body doubles like Saddam Hussein did just in case he is found dead in an apparent suicide. Three shots to the head of course…..

Also if we can print money at 0% interest rates to keep the banks afloat why can we not print it to invest in the economy by building infrastructure, badly needed housing to keep the hugely inflated private rental prices down, new train lines and other job creation activities?

So whilst the right-wing papers are printing headlines like the following ones I have listed today, I would just like to wish Jeremy well, and I am glad both my votes managed to get he and Tom Watson elected yesterday.

Daily Mail

  • Is that your new shadow cabinet, Jeremy? New Labour leader Corbyn sends his deputy Tom Watson to Andrew Marr show while he poses with girls in a park after eleven frontbenchers quit.
  • Corbyn’s union backers plan first general strike for 90 years and urge support for law breakers.
  • George is the real winner of the Labour contest – and he’s got his eye on Liz Kendall
  • Enemies of Britain… but friends of Corbyn: How Corbyn appears to hate this country, by Stephen Pollard, editor of the Jewish Chronicle.
  • Labour rocked as shock poll says party will lose next TWO elections as MPs plot to oust Jeremy Corbyn after Left-winger’s sensational victory.
  • Corbyn is an absurd vessel for the hopes of the disaffected and takes Labour another step closer to the margins of British politics, argues ex-Home Secretary Charles Clarke.
  • Now wait for Labour’s thugs to march again: From a moderniser who spent the 1980s battling hard left bruisers, David Blunkett warns the party could be out of power for a generation.

The Scum – Sorry Sun

  • New Labour leader sings The Red Flag with supporters at victory knees-up, while exodus of party heavyweights prompts fears of party split.
  • Corbyn will take us back to the 70s David Blunkett fears the Far Left will seize control of the Labour Party.
  • The vest is yest to come if you win if you win top like Jez. New Labour Corbyn loves to a wear a white singlet and you too can dress just like the Marxist firebrand by taking part in our great competition.

  • SNP ‘could form alliance’ with Corbyn’s Labour.
  • Split emerges as deputy opposes new leader’s policies.
  • Corbyn to pick shadow cabinet amid party mutiny.
  • Cameron: Labour is a threat to our national security.

And just remember whilst Jeremy Corbyn was being attacked for publicly talking to Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams, during the times he still had to have his voice edited out and re-spoken on British TV, the Tories were doing it on the quiet through their own backdoor channels.

All wars are finally ended by talking and compromise unless one side is totally defeated and Jeremy knows that, the problem is the military industrial complex won’t make money without these endless wars. This is why we haven’t had the peace dividend we were supposed to get when Communism was defeated in the USSR and Eastern Europe.

We have seen no real end to the wars we have caused lately. The wars we thought we won have carried on through proxies or ended up as civil wars from Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya to the current mess in Syria which will blow up in Europe’s faces, quite literally I feel.

Unless we don’t stop demonising Russia, Syria and Iran and stop Turkey from using it as an excuse to bomb their PPK, Kurdish enemies, who are all actually fighting ISIS on the ground. We will see more crackdowns on civil liberties, a worse refugee crisis and more terrorist attacks.

Only an end to the axis of war that the current Tory and hopefully OLD Tory lite Labour governments of recent years belonged to, will end the war on terror.

Only a person who can see that talking rather than bombing solves problems will solve this crisis we are all facing due to US/UK/French aggression around the world. Jeremy could be that person.

For too long we have let the establishment sway our minds and votes through fear of the unknown. Labour was taken away from their founders, the working classes when Tony Blair got elected by taking it to the centre and appealing to middle England and Tory supporters.

Whilst New Labour did some good things at first and managed the economy well in the early years, they also took us into 4 wars, let the Banksters and markets run free, created the most surveilled state in the western world (apart from maybe the USA now), repealed many laws that gave us the right to protest, congress and stay silent without question in police interview, and used anti-terrorism laws for non-terrorist activities such as freezing Icelands money when they had their own banking crisis. The Icelandic people have never forgiven Gordon Brown for labelling them terrorists and I know from my recent trip there just how much they hate Gordon Brown for this abuse of the law.

Finally New Labour allowed the banksters to break the banks and then used taxpayer money to bail them out. Not one banker was jailed for the numerous crimes of fraud that went on during these years.

They also helped create massive debt through their expansion of PFI (Private Finance Initiative) schemes that may have seen many schools and hospitals built but will cost the country dearly in payments for decades to come unless stopped. Some estimates put the cost as high as £300 billion.

New Labour may have seemed a good idea at the time but they ended up no better than the Tories.

This is why so many disaffected young people were so energised by Corby’s campaign. An unlikely hero for the young you may think but then they are the biggest sufferers of Labour and then the Tories recent political choices and austerity cuts.

Labour introduced tuition fees and the coalition government under the duplicitous Nick Clegg and David Cameron decided to increase them.

The new Tory government has decided to remove any state help for the young unemployed even when there are no jobs on offer and they have put the national debt on their shoulders to pay over future years despite George Cameron’s claims to do otherwise. It is no wonder they saw Jeremy’s campaign as a breath of fresh air and voted for him en mass.

So whilst the right-wing are basically “taking the piss”, and denouncing the new Labour leader as a far left, danger to society and national security just think about who you are listening to and what they have done to resolve those matters rather than make them worse.

Therefore I urge you to think carefully at the next election and not take the words of papers owned by neo-cons, tax avoiders, corporate criminals and establishment mouthpieces who benefit from the status quo as fact and do your own thinking before casting a vote.

Whether you like Corybn’s election or not and as long as the Blairites don’t become backbench snipers and backstabbers to prevent a successful leadership we could have a proper choice for once in the 2020 general election.

Hopefully it will be one between a party who will look after the interests of the young, the poor, the middle classes and create jobs, build houses and prevent fruitless wars and one that looks after the interests of all those who benefit from war, high rental prices and tax avoidance.

The choice is yours – but at least we now have a real one.

Please read in his own words what he wants for Britain.


By Dark Politricks


© Copyright – 2015 Dark Politricks

Finally my electronic voting form for the Labour Leadership election arrives – how to complete it to vote for Jeremy Corbyn

Finally my electronic voting form for the Labour Leadership election arrives – how to complete it to vote for Jeremy Corbyn

By Dark Politricks

Just like magic, just after I complained to Labour HQ about the lack of a voting form for the Labour leadership despite their taking of my money, the email popped into my inbox. They cannot be so thick to not recognise that it’s theft if they have taken your money from you but don’t give you the chance to vote.

People have been complaining about being purged from being able to vote all week now with the hashtag #LabourPurge, and even Andy Burnham was on TV earlier saying: “We know Tories have signed up so we must stop them being able to vote”.

I have trouble believing any true Tory would spend even £3 when they know it might go to some horrible poor useless eater down the line.

If you have paid £3 to become a registered member to vote in the Labour leader and deputy leader election you will get an email message like the one I did below.

If you haven’t got one yet ensure you confirmed your email when you registered by checking your junk/trash email boxes for the date you registered and confirm it otherwise no emails will be coming your way.

If you did confirm it then contact Labour HQ and complain. A quick search online for #LabourPurge or “How to vote in the Labour leadership contest” will show you who to contact.

Jeremy Corbyn’s website also has details on who to ring and dates you should vote before etc.

Here is the email you SHOULD get if you paid £3 just to vote.


You can now vote for the next Leader and Deputy Leader of the Labour Party.

You can vote online and your vote must be received by 12 noon on Thursday 10 September to count.

To vote, go to and enter the following two-part security code to confirm your identity:

Security Code Part One: [NUMERIC CODE e.g 4654645]
Security Code Part Two: [PIN CODE e.g 2f5t]

Once you have entered your security code, the website will give clear instructions on how to cast your vote. It takes just a few moments to cast your vote online, and you can do so at any time until the ballot closes at 12 noon on Thursday 10 September.

Vote Online Now

These elections are being run by Electoral Reform Services, who have been appointed by the Labour Party as the independent scrutineer for this ballot.

If you live in London, as well as voting for Labour’s Leader and Deputy Leader, you can also vote to select Labour’s candidate for London Mayor for the elections being held in May 2016.

On the online voting site, please rank the candidates in your order of preference. You do not need to use all of your preferences, but doing so cannot harm your first-preference candidate. Click here if you want to understand more about the voting system.

Thank you for taking part in these important elections,

The Labour Party
Sent by Electoral Reform Services

Please remember to ensure Labour don’t “FIX THE ELECTION” by shuffling around your 2nd and 3rd preferences to ensure Jeremy Corbyn doesn’t get elected.

To do this you should ONLY vote for Jeremy Corbyn and do NOT give 2nd, 3rd or 4th preferences to the other candidates as it is quite logical that Labour will use this to say the alternative voting system gave more 2nd and 3rd votes to some Tory Lite candidate rather than Jeremy.

Therefore just select his name next to the box marked “1″ under the column “Voting Preference” and leave the others blank.

Remember this is to prevent a Tory Lite Labour MPs getting voted in due to a 2nd / 3rd preference votes scam

Your page should look like this.

How to vote for Jeremy Corbyn
How your web page should look after voting for Jeremy Corbyn

Remember for £3 voters you ONLY vote electronically and online. This is all done on the website >

Remember if the website doesn’t have “https” (SSL / Secure HTTP) in front of the domain name OR it’s not even that domain name e.g a spoofed website such as or something similar.

Also if the email doesn’t come from the address [email protected] then it could be a fake phising like email to make you think you have voted when you haven’t.

Remember it really is not hard at all to run freely available code to copy a websites HTML – therefore creating a fake website that looks the same as another but does nothing OR something else.

Also it is not hard at all to send emails to people with a fake “From” email address.

Therefore just be sure you are going to the right page / website and not being tricked into wasting your vote etc.

Read why I want Jeremy Corbyn as leader here.

By Dark Politricks


© 2015 Dark Politricks

Are you a “Bunny Rabbit”? – “Yes”

Are you a “Bunny Rabbit”? – “Yes”

By Dark Politricks

The other night I watched Panorama on BBC1.

It was about the various torture techniques used by the Americans  during the early years of the “war on terror” on certain “high level detainees” they were holding in places such as Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib.

This of course included water boarding, as well as playing the same loud song over and over again, so that the prisoner could not concentrate on top of stress positions and basic humiliation.

1st Torture Test – Locked In Box in a stress position as loud music is played inwards at you constantly

One of the first “enhanced interrogation techniques” that was used on the BBC presenter was for her to be locked in an uncomfortable position into a small cramped black box for a number of minutes as loud music was pumped in to make the experience even more unconformable. It was a bit like being a magicians assistant without the benefits of being able to rest your feet or hands properly.

Within 10 minutes the BBC presenter couldn’t handle it and had the luxury of being able to “knock out” to get herself removed from the box.

As she clambered out of the box she told the camera that after that she would have told the people carrying out the torture anything to get herself out of that box.

The next integration was the infamous “water boarding” along with many other torture techniques it was designated by the George W Bush White House as NOT being torture.

This was the legal team that came up with the infamous “torture memos” created by such brilliant legal minds as John Woo, Alberto Gonzales, General Ashcroft and General Jay S. Bybee. They all told the CIA that techniques widely regarded as torture e.g mental and physical torment and coercion such as prolonged sleep deprivation, binding in stress positions and waterboarding were all legally permissible during the “War on Terror”.

I suppose when you are the most powerful country in the world and will in fact use military force to free anyone sent to the ICC the International Criminal Court (ICC) you can basically do what you like. This court was designed to “bring to justice the perpetrators of the worst crimes known to humankind – war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide”, especially when national courts are unable or unwilling to do so!

This would have been a great case for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz and co to be arrested, taken to the Hague and tried under the same international laws that he USA helped create after World War II at Nuremberg. 

Also seeing that President Obama did nothing but “pardon” all previous members of the Bush administration for any past crimes they may have committed it would have been a perfect example of the ICC stepping in due to the countries own failure to act when it came to punishing war criminals.

It seems all Obama’s claims on that first famous campaign trail were not “Yes We Can” but “No I Won’t Even Bother Trying”.

Waterboarding can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against the restraints, lasting psychological damage, and even death!

If this wasn’t classed by the Bush legal team as torture I don’t know what would be.

The only thing they could do worse would be to stoop even lower to the types of inhumane degradation that Islamic State carry out when they dress their victims up in the same orange jump suits that the prisoners at GITMO wear before burning their prisoners alive or chopping off limbs.

I wonder why ISIS would do that?

Well it’s perfectly clear actually, as a commentator stated on the programme. ISIS are copying the degrading treatment that their own prisoners get at the hands of the Americans in GITMO. Locked in cages as the inmates just as the prisoners at GITMO are, dressed in orange jumpsuits and blindfolded.

The only difference is that we know they are going to their death and ISIS ensure their prisoners are dead whilst the CIA cover up all the deaths they commit.

Islamic State are making a statement when they do this – you treat our Muslim brothers (most who were at Gitmo turned out to be innocent) like caged animals and we will do the same to our prisoners.

ISIS Prisoners dressed and caged as GITMO prisoners are

2nd Torture Test – Water Boarding

Anyway after the first torture test – the stress test with loud music locked in an uncomfortable box – the main presenter didn’t want to get involved in the 2nd test and another one of the Panorama team stepped up instead. The Torture must have been too much for her to bear.

The 2nd test was to be water boarded. This is where water is poured over a cloth which covers your face and the breathing passages of the detainee. This causes the person to experience the sensation of drowning even though they aren’t.

The Panorama team member was tied to a board and had a cloth put over his face as water was passed over his face constantly. He was coughing and spluttering and was in obvious discomfort.

Whilst he was being water boarded he was constantly being shouted at about whether or not he was in fact a “Bunny Rabbit”.

Obviously he wasn’t and the idea was for the reporter to hold on as long as possible and say “No of course not”.

However within a minute the reporter was shouting back “Yes”, “Yes I am a Bunny Rabbit” until the torture stopped.

After a few minutes at the most he begged to get off and they let him spend some time hurling up water and from his mouth and nose as he explained to the main presenter how he would have said anything to get them to stop the torture on him.

Does Torture Work

Of course there are those people who think “enhanced interrogation techniques” were perfectly within the law (only because they wrote it!), and that because of them they saved hundreds of American and other lives through their use by gathering important intelligence from detainees who were tortured.

Of course 99.99% of these people have not experienced the water boarding technique themselves so they cannot claim to know whether they themselves would blab about any terrorist plot they didn’t know anything about or just hold on due to some sado-masochist reasons as alleged 9.11 plotter KSM allegedly did.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed
Khalid Sheikh Mohammed the alleged ringleader and alleged plotter of the 9.11 attacks that have caused World War III

Apparently KSM was water boarded 183 times during March 2003,

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed did not divulge actionable intelligence until at least 2006 and withheld any actionable intelligence for 3 years.

In fact he got so used to the torture that he used to use his hand to show to the CIA Torturers the time left he had, counting down until they had to stop as they didn’t want to kill him. It seemed he got used to the pain and once he realised they would not go as far as kill him took the piss out of his torturers.

In fact many of the people who ended up being tortured gave up real actionable intelligence before being locked in boxes, tied in gurney and half drowned through normal professional interrogation techniques.

KSM also apparently admitted that he was:

Responsible for the 9/11 operation, from A to Z, as well as to decapitating Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, taking responsibility for the shoe bombing attempt by Richard Reid, the Bali nightclub bombing, the 1993 World Trade Center attack and a number of other attacks and attempted attacks that did not play out,

With this false intelligence the CIA was gathering from the “Bunny Rabbit”, their close partner the UK, who denied knowledge that they knew the Americans were using Torture, were busy helping their CIA counterparts. Multiple ex Gitmo detainees claimi to have seen MI6 agents hand the interrogators questions to be asked to them.

We also have at least two people trying to sue the UK government for their rendition and torture including Binyam Mohamed, a UK citizen tortured and secretly flown to Guantánamo Bay, and the abduction of Abdel Hakim Belhaj and Sami-al-Saadi, two prominent Libyan dissidents, and their families, who were flown to Tripoli in 2004 where they were tortured by Muammar Gaddafi’s secret police.

It didn’t help that after the British Embassy in Tripoli was bombed during war that hundreds of pieces of paper were found all over the floor including secret memos including our involvement in Belhaj’s torture.

The documents, marked ‘UK Secret’, were found in the abandoned British Embassy in Tripoli after the revolt and consisted of long lists of questions and background intelligence that MI5 and MI6 asked Libyan interrogators to put to Mr Belhadj during sessions where he claims he was being tortured.

A letter from an MI6 officer refers to Abdel Hakim Belhaj’s rendition to Libya. It congratulates the Libyans on the “safe arrival” of the “air cargo”.

Jack Straw who was Home Secretary at the time denies that the UK had any involvement in US rendition or torture. However Mr Belhaj says he was tortured in jail and a BBC correspondent, Peter Taylor, says he understands Mr Belhaj’s rendition was given ministerial approval.

However references to Britain’s intelligence agencies and links to torture were deleted at our request from the damning US Senate report on the CIA’s use of torture after 9/11 on our request under grounds of “National Security”.

Now that we have destroyed Africa’s wealthiest nation, the country with the highest life expectancy and GDP per capita on the continent, a once prosperous country with a free health service, where you were given a free house when you got married, oil being shared amongst the people and fewer people living below the poverty line than in the Netherlands – we are turning our hand up and saying “sort yourself out”.

This is a country where the government only commands a section of the country, where it has to meet on boats to prevent terrorist attacks and where tribal feuds that simmered for centuries under the pot but never boiled over under Gaddafi’s rule are now ruining the country. Even ISIS controls a portion of it on the coastline.

This is where thousands upon thousands of poor people from Libya, Somalia, Yemen and the rest of the world we have helped destroy try to get to the “continent paved with worthless €’s”. Little do they realise we are all skint, indebted to the moon and back and have racist gangs in every country waiting to greet these people with a lot more physical greeting than a handshake.

Risking death in the Mediterranean

Libyan refugees risk death to flee their war-torn country
Libya's people smugglers

People smugglers take advantage of desperate people in the Mediterranean

Criminal gangs send thousands of people over the Mediterranean in dangerous boats in the hope of reaching the EU, usually stuffing them into weak boats that are then set adrift in the hope that EU Navy boats will rescue them. Then if any of these refugees are lucky enough to get to Calais or the UK we them away despite the fact we turned their once prosperous country into a hell hole.

Calais Police Fight Immigrants desperate to get to the UK
French police fight migrants desperate to get to the UK at the Eurotunnel site at Calais

However we all know the axis of war is about destroying countries not rebuilding them. That takes time and effort. It’s much easier to just bomb from the air and torture captured combatants (whether real or not), to see what useful information they may have.

Blair sends tanks into HeathrowThe CIA extracted false information about a terrorist plot against the UK from their new al-Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammedwho was spilling the beans on every kind of attack imaginable to man. 99% of these claims turned out to be false such as the UK plot on Heathrow airport and London’s Canary Wharf.

They passed the information onto the UK and Tony Blair sent in the tanks to “protect” the airport. It was more hilarious than scary.

However they then used this to justify more use of waterboarding, the US Senate intelligence committee report on the CIA’s use of torture concluded.

So why did KSM admit to so many crimes that he obviously did not commit? Was he in fact a “Bunny Rabbit?”

If so why are we believing the ones that may have some speck of partial truth in them whilst ignoring the blatant lies which anyone who knows about torture will tell you that you will come up with to stop it. Lies such as the 1993 bombing of the WTC or the Shoe Bombing by Richard Reid?

As KSM continues to rot away at Gitmo after giving real actionable intelligence ONLY under sophisticated non-coercive persuasion favored by professional interrogators. The US is determined to try him for “conspiracy, murder in violation of the law of war, attacking civilians, attacking civilian objects, intentionally causing serious bodily injury, destruction of property in violation of the law of war, hijacking aircraft and terrorism” – they also seeking the death penalty for the near 3,000 people killed in the Sept. 11 attacks.

If you didn’t watch the episode details are below but I just wanted to remind you of an old English Legal Rule that determined commoners could not be believed to tell the truth unless torture had been carried out on them.

Another term would be “trial by ordeal” you can read about the three ordeals here.

Ordeal by fire. An accused person held a red-hot iron bar and walked three paces. His hand was then bandaged and left for three days. If the wound was getting better after three days, you were innocent. If the wound had clearly not got any better, you were guilty.

Ordeal by water. An accused person was tied up and thrown into water. If you floated you were guilty of the crime you were accused of.

Ordeal by combat. This was used by noblemen who had been accused of something. They would fight in combat with their accuser. Whoever won was right. Whoever lost was usually dead at the end of the fight.

It seems little has changed in this day and age of black site prisons, offshore sites like Gitmo and Israel/Gaza where international law doesn’t apply for some reason and of course all the people coming forward with their complaints of torture by the CIA and MI5/MI6.

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